"John was onstage with the Quarry Men singing 'Come little darlin', come and go with me,' but he didn't know the proper words, so he just started making them up, like 'Down, down, down, down to the penitentiary.' I remember I was impressed, and I thought, They're good. That's a great band. I met them in the church hall later and I sang a few songs to them, and John was impressed because he didn't know that many. He played some songs to me and we had some fun, but the other thing I remember is that he smelled a bit drunk."